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Kunena 7.0.2 Released
The Kunena team has announce the arrival of Kunena 7.0.2 [K 7.0.2] in stable which is now available for download as a native Joomla extension for J! 5.3.x/5.4.x/6.0.x. This version addresses most of the issues that were discovered in K 6.2 / K 6.3 / K 6.4 and issues discovered during the last development stages of K 7.0
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15 years 2 months ago #79933
by sozzled
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Replied by sozzled on topic Re: [Merged topic] "This webpage has a redirect loop"
The so-called "solution" - to create a forum entry link as an external menu type - is one possible workaround ... but it's not the preferred or recommended solution. The issue that's under discussion here, at the moment, requires an understanding of how Joomla menus work. The details of the underlying issues are described in
Customised Menus
in the Wiki and
Working with Kunena Menu (Index, Recent Topics...)
.
Part of the problem is caused by the fact that the Kunena installation procedure tries to create a menu item in the mainmenu module. For some templates (and for some end users) this is a non-desirable feature of the installation procedure. For most of us, this is a desirable feature and we do not encounter problems when we install or upgrade Kunenan. The question therefore boils down to what is better for the majority of users. Perhaps the installation procedure should ask "(For Expert Users Only) Would you like to create a menu as part of the installation process or would you like to do this yourself?" and allow the user to decide what to do? Of course, a lot of users will then follow up with the inevitable question: "How do I create a menu?" and we'll tell them to read Customised Menus ... and so it goes ...
Perhaps the solution is for someone to improve the article Customised Menus or to write a new article called "(For Expert Users Only) How to create a Kunena menu" Could someone do that, please?
Part of the problem is caused by the fact that the Kunena installation procedure tries to create a menu item in the mainmenu module. For some templates (and for some end users) this is a non-desirable feature of the installation procedure. For most of us, this is a desirable feature and we do not encounter problems when we install or upgrade Kunenan. The question therefore boils down to what is better for the majority of users. Perhaps the installation procedure should ask "(For Expert Users Only) Would you like to create a menu as part of the installation process or would you like to do this yourself?" and allow the user to decide what to do? Of course, a lot of users will then follow up with the inevitable question: "How do I create a menu?" and we'll tell them to read Customised Menus ... and so it goes ...
Perhaps the solution is for someone to improve the article Customised Menus or to write a new article called "(For Expert Users Only) How to create a Kunena menu" Could someone do that, please?
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15 years 2 months ago #79958
by sozzled
The problem is caused by the template that you're using and where the Kunena decides is a "good place" to create the menu. The Kunena installer decides that a "good place" would be somewhere where you don't want it. I understand that. Yes, I really do understand that. That's exactly what I've been saying in this topic over the past couple of days. What I'm saying is that the procedure built into the Kunena installer doesn't suit everyone; the procedure suits most people, but not everyone. For the exceptions - and you're one of those exceptions - people have to do things in a different way and, for the time being, that might also mean that they have to endure a few difficulties along the way.
A couple of days ago I think I mentioned (somewhere) that this issue has been discussed within the development team and there is a healthy debate about whether the automatic creation of a Kunena menu is such a good idea or not. For the majority of users, automatically creating a menu will not cause problems. For some users it will.
On the other hand, if a menu is not automatically created, most users will have a problem.
The idea is to make the process of installing Kunena as simple as possible. Sometimes that's not possible.
Everyone has their own idea about how their menus should be created and what templates suit their particular purposes. I'm not disagreeing with those choices or disputing them. What I'm trying to say is that sometimes things are a little trickier than usual. What I can say - with total confidence - is that all of the issues discussed in this topic are solvable if people have the patience and the perseverance to work them through.
The missing Kunena menu problem? The answer should be straightforward: use the Create Menu function and read how to customise you menu.
Perhaps what we could do is to organise for you to enter into a support arrangement (for a fee) whereby your website could be maintained thereby freeing you to do other things. Would you be interested in a fee-for-service support arrangement?
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Replied by sozzled on topic Re: [Merged topic] "This webpage has a redirect loop"
I know ... I understand the problem ... I really do!madLyfe wrote: well i also want a "forum" menu item placed in my mainmenu.. im with ya on that.. but that extra "kunena menu" tree that is made on install is not really needed is it?
The problem is caused by the template that you're using and where the Kunena decides is a "good place" to create the menu. The Kunena installer decides that a "good place" would be somewhere where you don't want it. I understand that. Yes, I really do understand that. That's exactly what I've been saying in this topic over the past couple of days. What I'm saying is that the procedure built into the Kunena installer doesn't suit everyone; the procedure suits most people, but not everyone. For the exceptions - and you're one of those exceptions - people have to do things in a different way and, for the time being, that might also mean that they have to endure a few difficulties along the way.
A couple of days ago I think I mentioned (somewhere) that this issue has been discussed within the development team and there is a healthy debate about whether the automatic creation of a Kunena menu is such a good idea or not. For the majority of users, automatically creating a menu will not cause problems. For some users it will.
On the other hand, if a menu is not automatically created, most users will have a problem.
The idea is to make the process of installing Kunena as simple as possible. Sometimes that's not possible.
Everyone has their own idea about how their menus should be created and what templates suit their particular purposes. I'm not disagreeing with those choices or disputing them. What I'm trying to say is that sometimes things are a little trickier than usual. What I can say - with total confidence - is that all of the issues discussed in this topic are solvable if people have the patience and the perseverance to work them through.
The missing Kunena menu problem? The answer should be straightforward: use the Create Menu function and read how to customise you menu.
Perhaps what we could do is to organise for you to enter into a support arrangement (for a fee) whereby your website could be maintained thereby freeing you to do other things. Would you be interested in a fee-for-service support arrangement?
Blue Eagle vs. Crypsis reference guide
Read my blog and
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