Question Menus - I must be missing something

Hi,
So there are two issues,
1. the bread crumbs (both joomla and the kunena) add an extra link which goes to the same place (note #1 and #2)
So Message Boards is just the forum link and the top section (i only have 1) is the mpva-boards with the first board being Message Board
Message Boards is a menu alias to the kunena menu and message Board is a kuena category



2 the second part is why does the forum menu go away on any page but the menu alias's how do I get it to show for the boards and topic pages? - I actually had this working at one point then I started to try and fix the bread crumbs (I deleted all board menu items and rebuilt) and now it does not work

So both have something to do with adding it to the joomla menu
if I go to another board the breadcrumbs and the kunena tabs work okay (I wold like to change the kunena tabs though)

#3 - I have figured that part out. need to publish those category views in the kunena menu and unpublish the ones I don't want.

But with only the top message board as a menu alias in the joomla menu I still have the issues with #'s one and two.
All extra menu items that pointed to the message board have been deleted and the trash emptied.

Please read this doc: docs.kunena.org/en/troubleshooting/menu-issues

I did that (deleted menus and menu items, emptied the menu trash and rebuilt the k-menu and used the link created for my menu) , it was how I figured out how to get the k-menu in the tabs
But the bread crumb part still does that double entry when I click on topic. Do I need to rebuilt the database or something too?

Do I need to rebuilt the database or something too?

No, I think this issue comes from your Joomla template. Test it with the joomla default template Protostar, whether this problem also exists.