Sticky Please help me understand the GPL for Kunena ... (and removing the "Powered by Kunena" link)

WebTrooper wrote: Fair enough, I don't use Kunena anyway.

Wow, that's a lot of complaining and accusation for someone who doesn't even use Kunena.

well said to all above severdia

severdia wrote:

WebTrooper wrote: Fair enough, I don't use Kunena anyway.

Wow, that's a lot of complaining and accusation for someone who doesn't even use Kunena.

I don't think he needs to use Kunena to make some contribution. That he is registered on your website means he is a part of your community.
Joomla has a lot of extensions and modules that are free. When you use about 10 of them and you you have no way of removing the "powered by" in all of them, your site is filled up with links and powered by on different pages. Some may not like this or feel it makes their website less professional - that you are using freebies and cannot afford a real website - the same reason you get your own domain name.

Kunena can decide they want people to keep the link but I would prefer they take a step further and make it a true choice as the GPL license specifies. In asking us not to, Kunena is placing us under a moral burden and dilemma. Why tell us we are free to remove it and then turn back and say you don't like it? A person who does not care about Kunena's effort would probably not bother about their feeling on this - but a true appreciative person would try to get Kunena to allow them or be emotionally blackmailed into leaving it.

By the way, I use Kunena.

The official Kunena forum and extentions only have 1 link at the bottom. Not several. You are free to remove that link if that is what you want. They only ask you not to. If you feel blackmailed because of that request....sorry to hear that. Removing the link is not hard nor difficult to find. The makers of Kunena have choosen not to help in removing the link or allow help with removing the link on their forums. Maybe we can show them respect for their work by granting them this one favor.

Off course we can keep bothering them with this discussion, keeping them away from all the hard work they do for us. And maybe they will change their mind....or stop programming for Kunena if they get fed up with it. We are not little childeren who keep nagging and nagging untill they get what they want, right?

adeniyi2010 wrote: I don't think he needs to use Kunena to make some contribution. That he is registered on your website means he is a part of your community.

Using Kunena and making a contribution to the project are obviously two totally different things. Making accusations that we aren't following the GPL is neither.

adeniyi2010 wrote: Joomla has a lot of extensions and modules that are free. When you use about 10 of them and you you have no way of removing the "powered by" in all of them, your site is filled up with links and powered by on different pages. Some may not like this or feel it makes their website less professional - that you are using freebies and cannot afford a real website - the same reason you get your own domain name.

Fair observation, but it doesn't change the project's stance on helping people remove the link.

adeniyi2010 wrote: Kunena can decide they want people to keep the link but I would prefer they take a step further and make it a true choice as the GPL license specifies. In asking us not to, Kunena is placing us under a moral burden and dilemma. Why tell us we are free to remove it and then turn back and say you don't like it? A person who does not care about Kunena's effort would probably not bother about their feeling on this - but a true appreciative person would try to get Kunena to allow them or be emotionally blackmailed into leaving it.

It IS a true choice. There's no moral burden or dilemma. If you don't want it, simply remove it. It's that easy. Sure, we'd prefer people didn't, but we're not forcing anyone to do anything.


Why don't we stop using hyperbolic phrases like "emotional blackmail." It's absurd. Remove the link if you don't want it. Or hire someone to do it for you if you don't have the technical skills (or do a simple Google search for FREE). Nobody is stopping you and complaining about our stance won't get the job done any faster.

adeniyi2010 wrote: By the way, I use Kunena.

Glad to hear it!

Video Tutorial - *** link removed by moderator ***

I hope that you wont delete this post and ban me. From what i read i understood that it's not against the license to remove this link.

If you guys dont want to show your users how to do this, i will!