Question Slow load in Kunena 1.6.1

I noticed lately my kunena has been going slow as well (Time to create page: 9.74 seconds) which for some reason it only does that with the index, the rest of kunena isn't that slow (when visiting categories or threads). The rest of my site runs decent speed, and on my test site kunena's index page does not lag which means it's probably a plugin. I know its not the template because I swapped to default to see. I guess I'm gonna have to disassemble my plugins once again. :dry:

Now here's one important question I have, is it possible to have plugins not activate on certain menu items? Kinda like how on modules you can activate them on what ever menu item you want. I have lots of patients to make my site seamless, but I'm impressed at how things can go wrong so easily.

Disable all plugins and modules, and re-enable all of them one by one and check each time if it's affect kunena .

Josh wrote: Now here's one important question I have, is it possible to have plugins not activate on certain menu items?

Yes, it's possible but it's not something that mere mortals like you or me can do - at least we won't be able to do these things until Joomla 1.6.

If you read Mootools 1.2.4 you will see that, even if you disable the Mootools plugin (which basically means that other components won't have access to it), Kunena enables it. So it's possible to do this but you need to know how.

There may be Joomla extensions that that can help. There may be an extension that, for example, allows you to decide where certain plugins will be loaded and where they won't. I don't know of any such extension but you could try searching the Joomla Extension Directory or try asking at the Joomla forum .

But all of this is a distraction to the real problem. You have something on your website now that is causing it to perform at a snail's pace.

However, while we're on this off-topic journey that Josh has led us to, I hope you will also allow me to make a few other observations about the real issues that are involved for you and for the benefit of others who may read this topic afterwards. It's your decision what is important on your website. If the most important, most-used function is your web-based discussion forum then that's where you should concentrate your energies. If the web-based discussion forum is the centrepiece of your website then that's what should be your highest priority. Once you make that decision it's really quite easy. Everything else is secondary.

When I write that everything else is secondary I don't mean that nothing else matters. What I mean, though, is that if a secondary issue is affecting the operation of the prime reason for having a website then you need to look at ways of tackling that secondary problem; this may possibly require you to install something else.

Every time I repeat this message I realise that most of the time it falls on deaf ears. For example, when I look at Kunena problems on a website where the manager has obviously installed dozens of extensions and possibly a hundred or more plugins and modules and I think to myself "what the heck are they trying to do?" When people write here "all ideas welcome" and we reply "you have a problem with your Joomla site template" there are howls of protest. Any idea except suggesting that people remove something on their website, it seems.

I'm definitely not trying to criticise Josh or any particular user in this topic. I am merely trying to provide a considered and general opinion for the possible benefit of others who will read this topic one day. Thank you for taking the time to read it.

My bad, I should have asked that question on the joomla forum (the one about menu item plugin). As for kunena, it's not my number 1 priority for my site, but its on the top 5. (And yes I'm one of those people who use a ton of plugins). The other day I spend quite a deal of time trying to allow debug mode which the whole time it was a faulty editor button (as well as system plugin). In all, I have dismantled (with backing up) my plugins probably 5 times within the past week trying to fix errors where possible, and took apart my entire site (which took a few hours) trying to find where things went wrong. So it's not like I'm not trying here.

Anyways sorry for the thread drift.

No problems. I only wish I was able to help you better.

Because my site has been so slow just lately, I contacted my web host. This is what I was told. Keep in mind that I'm not a programmer, please. I'm only posting here because I see jos_kunena...

I really need help with this.

Casey: [10:12:21 PM] These queries seem to be the larger portion of cpu usage:
[10:12:23 PM] Sun Dec 12 21:02:18 2010
# Query_time: 3.196955 Lock_time: 0.000438 Rows_sent: 39 Rows_examined: 258141
use simmerss_jml4;
SELECT a.*, j.id AS userid, t.message, l.myfavorite, l.favcount, l.threadhits, l.lasttime, l.threadattachments, COUNT(aa.id) AS attachments,
l.msgcount, l.mycount, l.lastid, l.mylastid, l.lastid AS lastread, 0 AS unread, u.avatar, c.name AS catname, c.class_sfx
FROM (
SELECT m.thread, MAX(m.hits) AS threadhits, MAX(f.userid IS NOT null AND f.userid='92') AS myfavorite, COUNT(DISTINCT f.userid) AS favcount,
COUNT(DISTINCT a.id) AS threadattachments COUNT(DISTINCT m.id) AS msgcount, COUNT(DISTINCT IF(m.userid='92', m.id, NULL)) AS mycount,
MAX(m.id) AS lastid, MAX(IF(m.userid='92', m.id, 0)) AS mylastid, MAX(m.time) AS lasttime
FROM jos_kunena_messages AS m LEFT JOIN jos_kunena_favorites AS f ON f.thread = m.thread
LEFT JOIN jos_kunena_attachments AS a ON a.mesid = m.id
WHERE m.hold IN (0) AND m.moved='0' AND m.thread IN (56979,75113,16581,52223,80856,5774,86140,48377,82074,71262,86582,1682,83433,69065,82726,86748,82210,2944,37225,38470)
GROUP BY thread
) AS l
INNER JOIN jos_kunena_messages AS a ON a.thread = l.thread
INNER JOIN jos_kunena_messages_text AS t ON a.id = t.mesid
LEFT JOIN jos_users AS j ON j.id = a.userid
LEFT JOIN jos_kunena_users AS u ON u.userid = j.id
LEFT JOIN jos_kunena_categories AS c ON c.id = a.catid
LEFT JOIN jos_kunena_attachments AS aa ON aa.mesid = a.id
WHERE (a.parent='0' OR a.id=l.lastid )
GROUP BY a.id
ORDER BY lasti DESC