Kunena 7.0.4 Released

The Kunena team has announce the arrival of Kunena 7.0.4 [K 7.0.4] in stable which is now available for download as a native Joomla extension for J! 5.4.x/6.0.x. This version addresses most of the issues that were discovered in K 6.2 / K 6.3 / K 6.4 and issues discovered during the last development stages of K 7.0

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11 years 10 months ago #157684 by friday shoes

810 wrote: this is because your js is load first, then load joomla template css.

Contact your template builder to remove that % Loader. Its slowing down your website.


Regards 810.

I switched off the pre-loader, the shift from left to right is more noticeable now because it's not being hidden by the mask.

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11 years 10 months ago - 11 years 10 months ago #157685 by sozzled
There is a lot going on at your website and one, or more, of those things are responsible.

This the following is a list of the Javascript libraries needed to run Kunena on a simple J! 3.1 website:
Code:
<script src="/media/system/js/mootools-core.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/jui/js/jquery.min.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/jui/js/jquery-noconflict.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/jui/js/jquery-migrate.min.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/system/js/core.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/system/js/mootools-more.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/kunena/js/mediaboxAdv.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/kunena/js/default.js" type="text/javascript"></script>

As you can see, this is a fairly short list. There may be one or two other Javascript librbaries loaded as well, but the above list is fairly typical for Joomla 3.1

This is a list of what I discovered at your website:
Code:
<script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery-1.8.3.min.js"></script> <script src="/media/system/js/mootools-core.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/jui/js/jquery-migrate.min.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/system/js/core.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/system/js/mootools-more.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/kunena/js/mediaboxAdv.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/kunena/js/default.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="https://c328740.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/mathjax/latest/MathJax.js?config=TeX-AMS-MML_HTMLorMML" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/plugins/system/jcemediabox/js/jcemediabox.js?version=1110" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/components/com_jfbconnect/includes/jfbconnect.js?v=6" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/sourcecoast/js/jq-bootstrap-1.8.3.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="//maps.google.com/maps/api/js?sensor=true&language=en-GB&libraries=weather" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="http://mbro35.co.uk/modules/mod_bt_googlemaps/tmpl/js/btbase64.min.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="http://mbro35.co.uk/modules/mod_bt_googlemaps/tmpl/js/default.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jpreloader.min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.placeholder.js"></script> <script src="http://mbro35.co.uk/mobiquo/smartbanner/appbanner.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/modules/mod_facebookwall/js/migrate.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/modules/mod_facebookwall/js/multifb.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/modules/mod_facebookwall/js/jquery.mousewheel.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/modules/mod_facebookwall/js/jScrollPane-1.2.3.4.min.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/retina.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.hoverIntent.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.scrollTo-1.4.3.1-min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.localscroll-1.2.7-min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.nicescroll.min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.sticky.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.lazyload.min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/FlexSlider/jquery.flexslider-min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/colorbox/jquery.colorbox.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.isotope.min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.tweet.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.mobilemenu.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.simplekey.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.van.js"></script>

I should also add that this list may not be complete and I have not included other Javascript that I found on your webpage. As you can see, the web browser has to perform a lot of actions before it renders the pages to the user. What is happening is that the browser is showing part of the rendering when it's completed some of all of those Dynamic HTML exercises involved in the Javascript (as 810 has already suggested in this topic). It's entirely a matter for you, of course, but I would look at ways of reducing or simplifying any unnecessary DHTML.
Last edit: 11 years 10 months ago by sozzled.
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11 years 10 months ago #157688 by friday shoes

sozzled wrote: There is a lot going on at your website and one, or more, of those things are responsible.

This the following is a list of the Javascript libraries needed to run Kunena on a simple J! 3.1 website:

Code:
<script src="/media/system/js/mootools-core.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/jui/js/jquery.min.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/jui/js/jquery-noconflict.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/jui/js/jquery-migrate.min.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/system/js/core.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/system/js/mootools-more.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/kunena/js/mediaboxAdv.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/kunena/js/default.js" type="text/javascript"></script>

As you can see, this is a fairly short list. There may be one or two other Javascript librbaries loaded as well, but the above list is fairly typical for Joomla 3.1

This is a list of what I discovered at your website:
Code:
<script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery-1.8.3.min.js"></script> <script src="/media/system/js/mootools-core.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/jui/js/jquery-migrate.min.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/system/js/core.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/system/js/mootools-more.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/kunena/js/mediaboxAdv.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/kunena/js/default.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="https://c328740.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/mathjax/latest/MathJax.js?config=TeX-AMS-MML_HTMLorMML" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/plugins/system/jcemediabox/js/jcemediabox.js?version=1110" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/components/com_jfbconnect/includes/jfbconnect.js?v=6" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/media/sourcecoast/js/jq-bootstrap-1.8.3.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="//maps.google.com/maps/api/js?sensor=true&language=en-GB&libraries=weather" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="http://mbro35.co.uk/modules/mod_bt_googlemaps/tmpl/js/btbase64.min.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="http://mbro35.co.uk/modules/mod_bt_googlemaps/tmpl/js/default.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jpreloader.min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.placeholder.js"></script> <script src="http://mbro35.co.uk/mobiquo/smartbanner/appbanner.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/modules/mod_facebookwall/js/migrate.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/modules/mod_facebookwall/js/multifb.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/modules/mod_facebookwall/js/jquery.mousewheel.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="/modules/mod_facebookwall/js/jScrollPane-1.2.3.4.min.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/retina.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.hoverIntent.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.scrollTo-1.4.3.1-min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.localscroll-1.2.7-min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.nicescroll.min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.sticky.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.lazyload.min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/FlexSlider/jquery.flexslider-min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/colorbox/jquery.colorbox.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.isotope.min.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.tweet.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.mobilemenu.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.simplekey.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript" src="/templates/simplekey/js/jquery.van.js"></script>

I should also add that this list may not be complete and I have not included other Javascript that I found on your webpage. As you can see, the web browser has to perform a lot of actions before it renders the pages to the user. What is happening is that the browser is showing part of the rendering when it's completed some of all of those Dynamic HTML exercises involved in the Javascript (as 810 has already suggested in this topic). It's entirely a matter for you, of course, but I would look at ways of reducing or simplifying any unnecessary DHTML.


Thanks for the in-depth analysis it's really useful to see what you see is going on.

I tried disabling individual items in the Extension Manager (Tapatalk, JFB Connect, Facebook Wall, AddThis and BT Google Maps) but the problem still remains.

Is there a method to load the site step-by-step or in slow motion so that I can see what is being called at the exact point the jump occurs?

Thanks for the help

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11 years 10 months ago - 11 years 10 months ago #157689 by sozzled

friday shoes wrote: Is there a method to load the site step-by-step or in slow motion so that I can see what is being called at the exact point the jump occurs?

Yes there is. Most modern web-browsers include web-design tools that allow you to analyse what is going on inside your browser: IE, Safari and Google Chrome all incorporate their own debugging tools as part of "the package"; Mozilla Firefox requires the add-on Firebug.

I think we know what (in general terms) is responsible for the issue and what you will need to do to fix it.

Yes, you can use tools such as I've mentioned to identify at what point the "jump" occurs. Alternatively, you could try disabling Joomla extensions, one by one, until you find what it is that's causing the problem. Whichever method you choose, it will probably take you a while of exploring all possible causes until you are left with essentially Kunena, Joomla and whatever it is that's "gumming up the works" (so to speak).
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