Question K 1.6.4 questions about Karma

sozzled wrote:

iLucato wrote: Hi folks, I'm not sure if it is just happening with me, but I've upgraded from 1.6.0 to 1.6.4 and in the back-end I've set the option SHOW KARMA as NO on the Forum Configuration » Plugins tab, but it is showing the karma in the topics/users. It doesn't matter if I set as YES/NO it always display the Karma.

Any idea if it is only with me or it is really an issue in the upgrade?

The cause of the problem is the Kunena template. Putting it bluntly, the problem was actually caused by you.

Hacking the code is unnecessary if people are using the unmodified K 1.6.4 Blue Eagle template. The display of karma is only part-controlled by the forum configuration options; the ultimate control is exercised by the Kunena template. Some templates honour the forum configuration options and some don't. We recommend that people use a Kunena template that respects the forum configuration options.

Why it was caused by me? If you read some posts back, I did a test and you'll see that I've said that even by using the unmodified K 1.6.4 Blue Eagle template and by setting in the administration to hide Karma, it isn't taking any effect. At least from here. So, by using all original 1.6.4 stuffs it still shows Karma even set to hide. When using my own template, it just uses the CSS folder and LoginBox folder which I just changed the register link position, so nothing else that would interfere on that. Have you tested 1.6.4 w/ Blue eagle and tried to hide Karma on your end? (com_kunena_v1.6.4_b4832_2011-05-07.zip)

I can show you 4 sites, all of them use unmodified Kunena 1.6.4, none of them display karma, and not a single line of PHP source code changed in any of them. That's the only point that I'm trying to make. I'm pleased that your change works for you. It may, or may not, work for others.

Well, maybe next time its better I try to delete all folders and files and make a new installation instead of an upgrade. It's hard to say if the 4 sites or all other folks have updated or started a new install. ;0) Well, that's ok. Once it is working for others that have upgraded also like me from 1.6.0 to 1.6.4, it's ok, I was just trying to help thinking that I was pointing something that would be a bug to show to developers, so once it is just happening here, I'll be quiet. :0)

This website, here at www.kunena.org , is one such site (started as K 1.0, was upgraded to K 1.5 and then was upgraded to K 1.6) is one such site. The code here (now K 1.6.4) is the same build as what is available to everyone else via the download page. Ron Severdia's site is another one that does not use karma but uses the standard Kunena template. fxstein's site is also another one. These are real site, not test ones, and they all use the Blue Eagle template and none of them displays karma.

I have several test sites (J! 1.5 and J! 1.6) where I don't use karma, either, and I've just used the standard installation package. I can give you details via PM if you are really interested.

It may be better, in your case, to uninistall Kunena (your forum data will not be lost if you uninstall Kunena - you will remove all the files and folders from your site - and then you can install K 1.6.4 again.

I don't believe there's a bug with the standard package. It's probable, though, that over time, the hacks you've made have complicated things. This is one reason why I never change PHP files. It's not because I don't know how to change PHP ... it's because it's not worth the hassle.

Hi Sozzled, thanks for your reply.

I've tried twice to reinstall and also tried to rename or delete the folders administrator/components/com_kunena and components/com_kunena and install over and the karma issue remains and the non-translated variables in the manager temples (blue eagle) showing in the back-end. Is there some link where I can read what files/folders should delete to uninstall Kunena from zero without losing the database as you said? I didn't find it in the documentation.

Thanks for your help and have a nice weekend.

Do you know how to uninistall a Joomla component?