Question css minify

Hi all,

I have in front of me this page from the wiki: Minified CSS .

It all seems perfectly clear: Kunena uses kunena.forum-min.css for styling. If you want to edit your css, you set DEBUG=YES in the admin pages, edit kunena.forum.css, see how it looks, and when you're done, minify the css and turn debug off again.

However, if I go to the css/ directory, and rename kunena.forum.css to something else, my layout goes all haywire, even though debugging is set to NO. This seems completely illogical. Is kunena reading kunena.forum-min.css or not? If not, why should it care about the contents (or lack thereof) in kunena.forum.css?

I'm totally baffled at this point.

Thanks

Kunena checks for the original file.. Yeah, it's illogical, but was a bit faster..

Thanks. It appears not only to check it, but to read it.

I have a problem: when I first installed Kunena and didn't know about the DEBUG=ON option, I was a lazy sod and copied kunena.forum.css to kunena.forum-min.css, and just edited the latter. I know, very bad :S

Now these two files are quite out of sync.

I made some changes to min.css, but they didn't "take"; so I figured settings were also being read from forum.css. So, I renamed kunena-forum.css, and, as I said above, my layout went crazy. At this point, I have no idea how to extricate myself from this situation. Some settings appear to be defined in the regular file, some in the min file. :pinch:

(As an aside: I am by no means an expert in these things, so maybe this is a naive question: Why take all this trouble to minify CSS? Why not simply let either Joomla and/or Apache handle compression? If I bzip2 the kunena CSS file, the compression is MUCH better than minify: like 80% vs 25%.)

Minifying css ends up 90% compression if you both minify and zip it.

I'm thinking of having different approach in K2.0, but I'm not sure how much time I have to do it.

In the mean time you can always load css files manually by editing initialize.php

Yes, I see you are right: But the savings are really tiny, just a couple of K.

According to a web optimization site I used recently, a fairly minimal Joomla home page is already upwards of 200K in size, so using minify here contributes to just an overall reduction of like 1% or 2%. I am all for fast websites, especially a Kunena forum, for obvious reasons, but I wonder whether using minify is really worth the trouble here, especially when it causes the problems I seem to be having.

With the use of diff, I managed to get a working kunena.forum.css and have switched on debug, so I can edit it.

I think things were going wrong above because kunena.default-min.css and kunena.default.css had different settings too.