Question CSS 1.6.1 SUCKS!!

The whole CSS concept is off the planet. Its next to impossible to locate what CSS files are defining attribute for what area. After spending 3 days skinning 1.6.0, 1.6.1 wrecks the ship and makes site skinning a fricking nightmare. Any plans to detail how this XXXXX works anywhere?

Well I'm assuming your wanting to mod stuff up. Well you could always ask the forum people if your looking for a certain part of the css code. Just saying before you go about bashing the code structure.

Please watch your language on the forums. You can vent your frustration without using obscenities.

Have you seen this post?

www.kunena.org/forum/170-k-16-templates-...y-kunena-16-template

Are you using Firebug?

What are you trying to customize that's giving you so much grief?

I think when a great deal of time is expended skinning a site, the next revision should not wreck that effort. There does not appear to be any documentation that details stylesheets and their functions. an example there's not explanation of how the kuneua.default.css, the kunena.default-min, the kunena.forum.css or the kunena.forum-min.css are used or which has hierarchical preference.

It appears the skinner.css are part of the option to use the current site style sheets

When applying my old 1.6 stylesheets as an alternate template, the results are less than what would be expected. Its it's hard to see an upgrade that destroys efforts has a benefit.

I know this is free software, however shouldn't there be some form of documentation to help us less gifted. My crystal ball short-circuited long ago.

severdia wrote: Please watch your language on the forums. You can vent your frustration without using obscenities.

Have you seen this post?

www.kunena.org/forum/170-k-16-templates-...y-kunena-16-template

Are you using Firebug?

What are you trying to customize that's giving you so much grief?

Sorry, did not see "sucks" and an obscenities to me.

First of all, I removed the obscenity in your first post (see the X?). Yes, "sucks" isn't an obscenity, but the other word you wrote was.

Have you seen this document on our wiki?

docs.kunena.org/index.php/Minified_CSS

You should really learn to use Firebug. It sounds like you don't use it. Check it out here:

getfirebug.com/

It will be a great help in tracking down the CSS for the parts you want to customize.

When upgrading from one version to the next, we try to take into consideration users that may have made customizations. But, to be honest, we can't take everyone's changes into consideration and sometimes we have to bite the bullet and make the change no matter how many people it will affect. We try to avoid those scenarios, but this is software development and it's constantly evolving.

It sounds like you should look into two different approaches to customizing your forum:

1. Customize your Kunena CSS file like you have been. If you do this, you will need to use a tool to find the differences between versions of Kunena. When Kunena has a new update, take the CSS file and compare it to your custom one. Copy over the new things to update your custom CSS file. It can be a tedious task, but it's certainly one valid approach.

2. Add customizations to your site template CSS file. If you're not going to rearrange the template and just want to customize colors, fonts, etc., then this is really the way to go. Using Firebug, figure out all the changes you want to make and add them to your main site CSS file, which override the default Kunena CSS file. That way, whenever you upgrade Kunena, all your styles remain intact (provided the style names don't change).

#1 allows you the freedom to totally rearrange the Kunena layout if you want. #2 allows you to customize quite a bit, but makes upgrades much easier. It sounds like you're sick of doing #1 and should consider #2.