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Kunena 5.2 Beta 1 Released (24 Sep 2020)

The Kunena team is thrilled to announce the first public beta release of Kunena 5.2, a native Joomla extension for Joomla 3.9. This is a development release and should be only be used for testing; this version is not recommended for live websites at this stage.

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8 years 8 months ago #1 by doug4r
I have a small Forum with currently only 16 registered users and 1 Super User.

The problem is that the Super User does not have buttons within an accessed post to do expected things such as Delete, Lock, Moderate and Sticky. The authorized activities shown are Reply and Quote. The buttons for both Guest and Registered are Reply and Quote.

I've been working on this for quite a while without success. Please help.


Doug

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8 years 8 months ago - 8 years 8 months ago #2 by sozzled
I'm not too sure where to begin with this, Doug.

From a cursory glance at the topic, my guess is that there's something wrong with the way that you've set up J! 1.7. I suspect (and I could be quite wrong) that you've played with Joomla's ACL settings. If we are discussing a problem caused by changing Joomla ACLs then we're entering territory that is well beyond the scope of a self-help forum like this one. So, first of all, I think we need to clearly establish whether you've made any changes whatsoever to Joomla ACLs ("user groups", that kind of thing, if you don't know what I mean).

The first thing that I noticed is the way you've attempted to set up Joomla SEO. While J! 1.7 SEO is a considerable improvement upon J! 1.5 SEO, there are still a couple of "tricks of the trade" as it were. Many people think that you can simply enable one setting in the Joomla Global Configuration and, hey presto, instant SEF URLs! Well, they're partly correct. Sometimes, though, complex Joomla extensions, like Kunena, do not behave as people may expect. 50% of the problems reported this forum are related to Joomla SEO and how people have set up their Joomla menus. If people have properly set up Joomla SEO and the menu then a hefty bulk of problems never appear at all.

Therefore, my first recommendation to you is to read Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) . I admit that I've not seen SEO issues manifest themselves in the way described in this topic, but I still feel that we should establish a sound Joomla footing, first, before exploring the mystery that we seem to have now.

Closely allied to SEO is the matter of your Joomla menu. For SEO to work, you need a Joomla menu (even if the menu is not displayed on your site) that points to where your forum is. The way that this menu is created is critical to the success of your site. Alternatively, if you don't pay proper attention to how you setup your menu items, that's OK, too but, under those conditions, you cannot expect your site to work if you enable Joomla SEO. Both these things - setting up Joomla SEO and setting up your Joomla menu properly - go hand-in-hand; you cannot have one without making sure you have the other. Even though you have a Kunena menu (tabs on the top of your forum) you do not have a published menu item on your site. Your configuration report shows us that.

So that's where I started. As far as why a super user has no added privileges, we could ask many questions: What account, specifically, is the super user using to login with? How do we know that the person (the one logging in with a supposedly "super administrator" account) is using the right account. Did you modify the Joomla permissions for the Kunena component in any way at all?

These are the facts: Administrators (and super administrators) automatically have forum moderation privileges (namely, the means to delete, lock, sticky, etc.) We assume that, at some time before you made your site "live" these things worked. Since making your site live, what changes have you made in Joomla to disable those features?

As I wrote at the beginning, Doug, I'm not sure where to start but I think it's best we start with a good Joomla foundation first and work our way up from that.
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8 years 8 months ago #3 by doug4r
I have read the "Implementing Joomla SEO" article and believe I now have the configurations set as recommended.

What is the correct procedure for getting a Joomla Menu published on my site? Under "Menus" I have a "Kunena Menus" tab and have all Kunena Menus listed there set to published.

I have spent a lot of time trying to figure out how the Joomla 1.7 ACL's work without much success. In this process, I have looked at many of the ACL settings. I don't think any ACL's have been changed but cannot guarantee it. Is there documentation available on what the beginning ALC's are, so I can compare them with what I have.?

Here is a new Configuration report:

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Joomla default template details : blacknyellow1 | author: | version: 1.0 | creationdate: 2012-01-07

Kunena default template details : Blue Eagle (default) | author: Kunena Team | version: 1.7.1 | creationdate: 2011-11-16

Kunena version detailled: Installed version: 1.7.1 | Build: 5162 | Version name: UnderUret | Kunena detailled configuration:

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8 years 8 months ago #4 by sozzled
There are two broad areas associated with setting up Joomla SEO properly: (a) the Global configuration settings - which also require you to have a valid .htaccess file; and (b) having a published menu item that is associated with your Joomla component (in this case, Kunena). These things are covered in Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) in the Wiki.

The second matter, tweaking J! 1.7 ACL settings is complicated - too complicated to go into depth within the constraints of a self-help forum like this one. Some tips are given in [Merged topic] Every new user has Administrator rights (which is almost the opposite of the situation you currently have).

The other approach is to try to set all your Joomla ACLs back to the original settings and make gradual changes to make special allowances for your particular circumstances. Unfortunately, this too, is beyond the scope of explaining in one or two short sentences. Sometimes these things require dedicated Joomla specialist support. I haven't looked at the Joomla site to see what are the initial settings for Joomla ACLs but, I agree, it would be sensible to start there and see what they have.

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8 years 8 months ago #5 by doug4r
I did rename the htaccess.txt file to .htaccess. I made no changes to the contents of the file which are:

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##
# @version $Id: htaccess.txt 21101 2011-04-07 15:47:33Z dextercowley $
# @package Joomla
# @copyright Copyright (C) 2005 - 2011 Open Source Matters. All rights reserved.
# @license GNU General Public License version 2 or later; see LICENSE.txt
##

##
# READ THIS COMPLETELY IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE THIS FILE!
#
# The line just below this section: 'Options +FollowSymLinks' may cause problems
# with some server configurations. It is required for use of mod_rewrite, but may already
# be set by your server administrator in a way that dissallows changing it in
# your .htaccess file. If using it causes your server to error out, comment it out (add # to
# beginning of line), reload your site in your browser and test your sef url's. If they work,
# it has been set by your server administrator and you do not need it set here.
##

## Can be commented out if causes errors, see notes above.
Options +FollowSymLinks

## Mod_rewrite in use.

RewriteEngine On

## Begin - Rewrite rules to block out some common exploits.
# If you experience problems on your site block out the operations listed below
# This attempts to block the most common type of exploit `attempts` to Joomla!
#
# Block out any script trying to base64_encode data within the URL.
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} base64_encode[^(]*\([^)]*\) [OR]
# Block out any script that includes a <script> tag in URL.
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} (<|%3C)([^s]*s)+cript.*(>|%3E) [NC,OR]
# Block out any script trying to set a PHP GLOBALS variable via URL.
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} GLOBALS(=|\[|\%[0-9A-Z]{0,2}) [OR]
# Block out any script trying to modify a _REQUEST variable via URL.
RewriteCond %{QUERY_STRING} _REQUEST(=|\[|\%[0-9A-Z]{0,2})
# Return 403 Forbidden header and show the content of the root homepage
RewriteRule .* index.php [F]
#
## End - Rewrite rules to block out some common exploits.

## Begin - Custom redirects
#
# If you need to redirect some pages, or set a canonical non-www to
# www redirect (or vice versa), place that code here. Ensure those
# redirects use the correct RewriteRule syntax and the [R=301,L] flags.
#
## End - Custom redirects

##
# Uncomment following line if your webserver's URL
# is not directly related to physical file paths.
# Update Your Joomla! Directory (just / for root).
##

# RewriteBase /

## Begin - Joomla! core SEF Section.
#
RewriteRule .* - [E=HTTP_AUTHORIZATION:%{HTTP:Authorization}]
#
# If the requested path and file is not /index.php and the request
# has not already been internally rewritten to the index.php script
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !^/index\.php
# and the request is for something within the component folder,
# or for the site root, or for an extensionless URL, or the
# requested URL ends with one of the listed extensions
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} /component/|(/[^.]*|\.(php|html?|feed|pdf|vcf|raw))$ [NC]
# and the requested path and file doesn't directly match a physical file
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
# and the requested path and file doesn't directly match a physical folder
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
# internally rewrite the request to the index.php script
RewriteRule .* index.php [L]
#
## End - Joomla! core SEF Section.

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Do I need to make changes to the contents of .htaccess?

I still do not follow you about the Kunena Menus. I have now read the article "How do I restore my Kunena menu?" It talks about a "Kunenamenu template position". Where do I find this?

My site is:

www.machi1964.com

From the Home Page, select "Class Member Discussions" to go to the Kunena Forum. I can set you up privately with a temporary Super User login if this would help on the Joomla 1.7 ACL permissions or anything else.

I've learned a lot from your postings already.

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Joomla default template details : blacknyellow1 | author: | version: 1.0 | creationdate: 2012-01-07

Kunena default template details : Blue Eagle (default) | author: Kunena Team | version: 1.7.1 | creationdate: 2011-11-16

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8 years 8 months ago #6 by sozzled
Please read How do I restore my Kunena menu? in the FAQs. Let's get this right, first, and then we can look at the user permissions issues.

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8 years 8 months ago #7 by doug4r
I have done steps 1 and 2

1. Trash all existing menus and menu items that relate to your Kunena forum

2. Ensure that you do not have a folder named /forum on your site.

3. Where do I empty the menu trash? I went to Trash Manager, but there are no items listed.

I have done step 4

4. Use the Create Menu feature in the Kunena control panel to restore your Kunena menu.

I have read Customize Menus but still cannot figure out how to do Step 5.

5. Make sure that you publish a link in your menu that calls the Kunena forum. Use the Alias Menu type to define that link (see Customised menus for more information)

I can't figure out how to do item 6.

6. Ensure that you have published a menu module for the kunenamenu template position.

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Here is another configuration report. Is there a way to see the report in a posted forum item format before it is posted?

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Database collation check: The collation of your table fields are correct

Legacy mode: Disabled | Joomla! SEF: Enabled | Joomla! SEF rewrite: Enabled | FTP layer: Disabled |

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htaccess: Exists | PHP environment: Max execution time: 45 seconds | Max execution memory: 96M | Max file upload: 24M

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Joomla default template details : blacknyellow1 | author: | version: 1.0 | creationdate: 2012-01-07

Kunena default template details : Blue Eagle (default) | author: Kunena Team | version: 1.7.1 | creationdate: 2011-11-16

Kunena version detailled: Installed version: 1.7.1 | Build: 5162 | Version name: UnderUret | Kunena detailled configuration:

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Third-party components: None

Third-party SEF components: None

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Modules: None


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Doug

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8 years 8 months ago #8 by sozzled
I would prefer not to have super admin access to your website to fix up your mistakes, if possible. I think it's going to take a while (an hour or so) to fix up what you've done. Perhaps we need to resolve this by me showing you what to do (one-on-one) via some other means ... assuming you are familiar with Skype, for example.

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8 years 8 months ago #9 by doug4r
I am familiar with Skype, but I do not have it installed at the present time. I am not opposed to doing that. I had looked into it at one time to communicate with relatives in Oregon from my location in Florida. But, for various reasons it didn't get done.

As an alternative, how about using the Free version of LogMeIn? You could run my computer remotely, and I could watch what you do. I just installed it myself today based on the recommendation of a friend.

Doug

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8 years 8 months ago - 8 years 8 months ago #10 by sozzled
I sent you a PM. I use Skype. My offer is based on what I wrote to you in my PM.
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