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23 May 2011 00:36
Replied by sozzled on topic Re: Error in Joomla when not logged in Kunea

Error in Joomla when not logged in Kunea

Category: Miscellaneous, off-topic and general Joomla

As we have written before, on hundreds of occasions, Kunena is not responsible for user registration. Kunena uses whatever you have installed for user registration. Kunena can integrate with a login form from another module, if you have one installed on your site, but you also have the choice to disable logins altogether from the Kunena pages. Does this help?
13 May 2011 14:03
Replied by sozzled on topic Re: Set Allow Nickname on Posts to Yes but Name does not display

Set Allow Nickname on Posts to Yes but Name does not display

Category: K 1.7 Common Questions

Again, while allowing this off-topic discussion to continue (because it really does not tie-in well with the question asked in msg #1), let me recapitulate the position. Kunena is not responsible for user registration. There is no user registration form generated by Kunena. It depends on the user registration process that you are using and the translation of "user name" as "display name" (or something else) that may give your users some guidance.

I hope that helps.
13 May 2011 13:36 - 13 May 2011 13:38
Replied by sozzled on topic Re: Set Allow Nickname on Posts to Yes but Name does not display

Set Allow Nickname on Posts to Yes but Name does not display

Category: K 1.7 Common Questions

Is there a way so that one can change on the registration 'real name' which is what is easier and safer to change, to say nickname. That way they can use that as their nickname and They won't accidentally put in their real name for it?

I think I understand the point that you are trying to make and I'm sorry I was a little slow. This is somewhat off-topic (because I was trying to address the "nickname" feature question in the context of Kunena) but I see what you are trying to do.

As you know Kunena is not responsible for user registration. Whether or not you allow your users to change their "real" name (and let's leave aside the naïveté of 14 year-olds who should probably be a little more cautious when they register or websites) is something that depends entirely on how you manage your user registration process. For example, basic Joomla allows people the option to change certain details in their user account assuming that you provide them with a menu item to do so. Many third-party products (like JomSocial or Community Builder) likewise offer this functionality. Under certain conditions, people can change their "real name" in Kunena, too, but this may be limited by other policies that you have implemented on your website.

For example, if you have set your forum to use the Kunena user profile, your users can edit their profile as demonstrated by the following screenshot.


Does that help?
05 May 2011 03:20
Replied by sozzled on topic Re: Jom social

Jom social

Category: K 1.6 and K 1.7 miscellaneous third-party extensions archive

How you control user access to JomSocial is something that you need to configure with JomSocial.

Kunena is not responsible for user registration. In your case I am assuming that you use JomSocial to control user registration. Your users are "Kunena users" because they are registered with your site. There is no separate registration function for Kunena.
02 May 2011 03:12
Replied by sozzled on topic Re: Registration process through Kunena

Registration process through Kunena

Category: K 1.7 Common Questions

Please read the results of this search: Kunena is not responsible for user registration

I think this explains everything quite clearly.
01 May 2011 03:22 - 01 May 2011 04:06
Replied by sozzled on topic How to protect my forum from spam

How to protect my forum from spam

Category: Miscellaneous, off-topic and general Joomla

*** Topics Merged ***

I know this topic has been discussed extensively on this forum, but the posts I can find are very disjointed and very old.

G'day :)

Yes, the topic has been discussed extensively on this forum but the discussion has been kept in the one place so as to assist everyone with the same basic question: "How do I protect my website (and my forum, obviously) from attack?" Rather than tackle your question as a separate, new topic - as you have done - I've merged your topic with the one we've used in the past. I will, however, try to give your questions more detailed treatment than by responding with a facile how-you-protect-your-forum-is-something-for-you-to-decide kind of answer.

Even though some of the messages posted in this discussion may be old, the problem of spam is much older than when this topic started. Spam has been a persistent problem that is older than the internet. So, while some of the messages may seem "dated", the advice given in this topic is as fresh and relevant today as when it was first offered.

Can anybody maybe give us all a simple, single forum example to solve this issue?

The reason that there is no single, simple answer is because the issue quite complex. If we start with the understanding that everyone has a different way of implementing a website (and a web-based discussion forum like Kunena) you might begin to understand that many factors may contribute to this problem.

Some people like the idea of allowing anyone to post whatever they like without requiring them to login. The problem with that, of course, is that they have little control over the content of what people post on their forum apart from challenging people every time they post with some simple "identity" check (e.g. CAPTCHA) and all that CAPTCHA does is to ensure that it's a human being posting objectionable material instead of a 'bot.

Some people restrict their sites so that everyone can view what's posted on the forum (and only registered users can login in order to post) but then allow anyone to register with their site; they then wonder how their sites become littered with material that they consider "objectionable". Other people still further restrict their sites so that only registered members of the community must login - in order to see the forum - but they still have the "open door" policy to allowing material to appear on the site automatically, without review. Again, the root cause of this problem is a registration issue. How do you know, when someone registers at your site, that they're not going to abuse the privileges of posting on your site?

Still, other people even further restrict their sites by requiring that all messages are subjected to moderator review before they are published on the board. This is about the ultimate preventive measure but it impacts on the smooth flow of the discussions and comes at a cost to management. This is a question for forum managers/site administrators to weigh up as to how much management overhead is the "right amount" and how much is not justifiable.

Some website genres seem more "attractive" to spam than others. I don't know why that seems to be the case but anime and game sites are more likely to be targeted by spammers than old ladies' quilting or bird-watching society websites. :unsure:

1. A spam user or bot registers on a Joomla! site and defeats captcha and email confirmation.

Of course as we all know, this has nothing to do with Kunena. Kunena is not responsible for user registration on a Joomla website. User registration is a Joomla function that may be optionally assisted by other Joomla extensions better equipped to deal with registration scrutiny. Basic Joomla has two variations: allow everyone to register (and new registrations must confirm by using a valid email address) or allow no-one to register. If you allow no-one to register you, the system administrator, must perform all user registration yourself.

2. They begin posting spam on a Kunena forum that only allows posting by registered users.

As I mentioned earlier in my reply, if you allow people to register and give them the unfettered right use the forum after they have joined, then you allow people the ability to post whatever they like ... unless you review everything that they write beforehand. The question that everyone needs to individually answer is, how much scrutiny is the "right amount" of scrutiny. On the one hand you can scrutinise to the point of terrorising people and they may be reluctant to post anything at all if they're continually subjected to this kind of treatment.

For instance, take a community-driven, self-help forum like the one here at www.kunena.org. Messages are not screened before they appear on the forum. They appear instantly. So, you may ask, how do we prevent spam posting on this website?

The answer to this question, as I have often written, is simple:

The only effective remedy against spam is vigilance.

We have an active moderation team here, one that operates close to 24 hours a day, and spam rarely lasts for more than a few minutes before it's detected, removed and the account(s) responsible for this rubbish are blocked from accessing the site in future. This site has a zero tolerance of spam and the moderation team is equipped with the necessary tools to deal with the problem.

However, if you are asking what preventive measures can be taken in the first place to stop spam from showing up on your forum, the answer really lies in how you screen new user registrations. There must be hundreds of guides on the internet to help people with this "management problem"; the forum here at this site is one place where people can meet to discuss various ideas, hints, tips and tricks-of-the-trade. I've given you a few ideas and I hope they help. I'm sure that others may have their own suggestions that will help you, too.
18 Apr 2011 00:16
Replied by sozzled on topic Re: user logon

user logon

Category: Miscellaneous, off-topic and general Joomla

G'day, Garry, and welcome to Kunena

I'm sorry, but could you be a little bit more specific please?

"Installed the program" is a little bit like saying "put the key in the lock". Which lock: car, house, boat, caravan, truck? So which "program" are you talking about?

Garry Que:

Great program just need help with this registering a new user

Kunena is not responsible for user registration

Garry Que:

I think its in Joomla 1.6 but I'm not sure where.

Have you asked at the Joomla support forum ?
28 Mar 2011 09:29
Replied by sozzled on topic Re: Registering Users

Registering Users

Category: K 1.6 and K 1.7 Common Questions Archive

G'day, John, and welcome to Kunena.

I suggest that you look at the results of this search query for more information about Joomla and Kunena and user registration: search results
23 Feb 2011 02:47
Replied by sozzled on topic Re: Required fields

Required fields (CLOSED)

Category: Miscellaneous, off-topic and general Joomla

I can't remember how many times I have written this at this forum but I will repeat it again.

Kunena is not responsible for user registration.

That is the start, the middle and (just about) the end of the discussion. Joomla is responsible for user registration. You can use other extensions, like JomSocial and Community Builder, to perform the registration process. Part of that registration process can be to insist that a user completes the birthdate field, however Kunena does not have a "registration process". Sorry. That's the way it is.
08 Feb 2011 03:57
Replied by sozzled on topic Re: Last Visit Date Incorrect For People Who Have Never Visited

Last Visit Date Incorrect For People Who Have Never Visited

Category: K 1.6 and K 1.7 Common Questions Archive

Someone have a fix? Visitors of my forum permanently joke of this date.

OK, so it's a joke. The easiest way to deal with that is to laugh along with them! B)

You could tell them the technical truth but, from the sounds of things, your users aren't really interested in knowing the technical truth. They just want to laugh. Well, unfortunately, you can't always change social behaviou just because you feel irritated by it.

You could tell them that the problem is a software problem. The actual truth is that this is not a forum issue. As we have stated on hundreds of occasions, Kunena is not responsible for user registration or the data that is deposited into user registration records when people join your website. (Kunena simply picks up whatever information is fed to it from the jos_users table). This is a Joomla issue. If the information is "wrong" in Joomla then Kunena will make whatever sense it can of it (or not) as the case may be.
02 Feb 2011 02:36 - 02 Feb 2011 02:40
Replied by sozzled on topic Re: Community Builder and it's worth?

Community Builder and it's worth?

Category: Miscellaneous, off-topic and general Joomla

G'day, Bob.

It's possible to physically rename and move the user avatar image files from where they're stored by CB to where they're needed by Kunena. It depends on how many users (and whether they've uploaded their own CB avatar images) as to how long this process would take.

Originally this topic started as a general question about "is CB really necessary" and I think we've answered that. The topic is now delving into specifics about how to make CB work and we're in danger of misusing the purpose of the Miscellaneous, off-topic and general Joomla category when we have another category for such purposes.

Bob Britt wrote:

Is there a way to make the Kunena Profile manager the default manager for all joomla access but still have CB doing the registration?

As you know, Kunena is not responsible for handling user registration. The Kunena user profile - even though it's well designed, looks good and contains most of what is captured by whatever registration process you've got - is only used in the Kunena forum component. The Kunena user profile is not a standalone Joomla extension.

You could probably design a feature that sat outside Kunena to allow your users to point to their profiles to the Kunena profile view. I honesty haven't tried to do this. Maybe someone else has done this and can tell us?
25 Jan 2011 05:10 - 25 Jan 2011 05:13
Replied by sozzled on topic Re: Is there anyway to configure the emails sent by the system when a user registers

Is there anyway to configure the emails sent by the system when a user registers

Category: Miscellaneous, off-topic and general Joomla

Yes, there is a way to customise the wording used in the system-generated emails. As you are probably aware, Kunena is not responsible for user registration. If you were not aware of this fact, Kunena is not responsible for user registration .

Perhaps your question is best answered by looking at the Joomla support forum . If I have misunderstood your question, please let us know.
22 Jan 2011 16:26 - 22 Jan 2011 16:46
Replied by sozzled on topic Re: Captcha or email activation for new users

Captcha or email activation for new users

Category: Miscellaneous, off-topic and general Joomla

Thank you for the pictures. The first picture is Kunena. The second picture is what happens when you click the "create an account link" - Kunena is not responsible for generating the second picture; that was created by Joomla. Are we all clear on that point? :) Kunena was not responsible for the registration form.

How do I get a captcha on that registration?

You do that with a registration module that has a CAPTCHA feature. Sorry, if that sounds like I'm talking in circles but, really, I'm telling you the truth.

Although first image looks like Kunena is asking you to register/create an account, you have to understand that the login form that's painted by Kunena is merely giving your users the means to login or register using whatever registration process you have installed. You can, if you wish, completely remove this function if you think it's too confusing or complicated.

If you haven't installed anything "special" then your users use the Joomla registration process. The Joomla registration process does not have a CAPTCHA feature. There are other registration processes that you can use that do have a CAPTHCA process to filter out undesirable registrations - the Joomla Extensions Directory is the place to look for those - and these are some of the things that are discussed in the topic [Merged topic] How to protect my forum from spam .

However, returning to your question: Kunena is not responsible for user registration.
22 Jan 2011 10:18 - 22 Jan 2011 10:26
Replied by sozzled on topic Re: Captcha or email activation for new users

Captcha or email activation for new users

Category: Miscellaneous, off-topic and general Joomla

How do I enable [Captcha or email activation] for new user registration? I have email activation enabled for Joomla, but this, obviously, doesn't carry over into Kunena.

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean.

Kunena is not responsible for user registration.

Let me say that again - because, if you had searched this forum for "user registation" you would have our response on nearly every occasion that the question has been asked - Kunena is not responsible for user registration. Joomla is responsible for user registration. I don't understand what you mean that the account activation "doesn't carry over into Kunena".

In what way(s) does the account activation not "carry across into Kunena" or prevent users from using your forum? Can you be a little more specific, please?

I saw some older postss (10 months+ ago) that talk about a setting under the Security tab for turning on spam protection

There were some protections built into K 1.0 and K 1.5. There is some ability to apply CAPTCHA if (and only if) you allow guests to post on your forum. No version of Kunena imposed CAPTCHA for logged-in, registered users. It is assumed - rightly or wrongly - that, if you had passed the registration checks that you have on your website, that people have the right to post on your forum.

I do not see it in 1.6.3.

At the time of writing, K 1.6.3 does not exist as a public release. K 1.6 has the capability to integrate a third-party CAPTCHA mechanism; see >>> here <<<
20 Jan 2011 04:53
Replied by sozzled on topic Re: Critical problem with users registering - memory exhausted?

Critical problem with users registering - memory exhausted?

Category: K 1.6 and K 1.7 Common Questions Archive

As a general response - because we cannot see your website (did you remove those details from your K 1.6 configuration report?) - Kunena is not responsible for user registration. No versions of Kunena have been responsible for user registration.

I accept the premise that something on your Kunena web pages has generated an error message and the error prevents users from accessing the registration procedure on your website but, until I know more about what it was you did and how we might be able to see this situation for ourselves, we're fumbling in the dark on this problem. Is there some way that you might be able to shed some further light on what's happening, please?

Memory exhausted problems are not always the result of low memory (and 128 Mb should be quite sufficient) and I doubt that the problem is this. I think there's some kind of integration issue but I just can't put my finger on it.
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