Question Kunena / Joomla 4 ?

Smirnov wrote:

I'll tell it as a joke.
Joomlart team, which positions its Joomla templates as compatible with kunena - purity III , for example - is now facing some difficulties.
The problem is that Aurelia uses bootstrap 5. I don't know if Joomlart will be able to solve this style conflict.
If there is no solution to the problem, that's too bad...
 

Question is, is that a Kunena or a template issue? Joomla renders it's own components also with Bootstrap 5, even when not using the Joomla build in template. So template developers are already working around conflicts here as well. (in Joomla 5 they are (under discussion) removing that dependency and move everything rendered into the template instead of into the system)
I build my own extensions and I can tell you that the easiest is to use a framework (like bootstrap or UIkit) for your extension, but then you will run into issues with customers who use a non BS / UIkit template. So for my own extensions I created my own css and still I sometimes run into issues / conflicts.

I think that Kunena, being a volunteer based project, did the right thing and adopted BS5 as that is the J4 standard. creating a template like aurelia is a lot of work, creating its own CSS framework to avoid conflict (which is a utopia) is more then double the work.

ruud wrote:

I think that Kunena, being a volunteer based project, did the right thing and adopted BS5 as that is the J4 standard. creating a template like aurelia is a lot of work, creating its own CSS framework to avoid conflict (which is a utopia) is more then double the work.

You're probably right. Nevertheless - a very painful transition from J3.10 to J4.*. It reminds me of J1.5 -> J2.5 upgrade (anyone remember jUpgrade?  ).

Which is what this topic proves. Numerous css conflicts, problems with popular components: the death of Uddeim, ridiculous problems with the K2 upgrade. I think the Kunena team would do the right thing if they developed a second (alternative) free template for Kunena 6.

I'd like to take this opportunity to promote K2ForJ4 . A lot of effort has gone into making this fork work properly with Joomla 4. Please test it, if it is interesting for you. 

UddeIM is a special case, it keep the compatibility with Mambo and all Joomla! versions

We are lacking manpower to develop others things, so we are focusing on Kunena, the module lastest and the discuss plugin

For Joomla! 5.0 the upgrade will be more smoother there will be less backward compatiblity broken, Joomla! 4.3 will bring Bootstrap 5.2 and Joomla! 5.0 Bootstrap 5.3

Do you guys have a guide for IT stupid people like me  to upgrade Kunena/Joomla to Jomla 4 and Kunena with a template that works with it ?

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I have gone to Joomla 4.2.6 this month. One problem was that the extension SSL Fixer stopped the migration. SSL Fixer were not Joomla 4 compliant although it seemed so from preinstallation. My template Gantry 5 is bootstrap 5 so it works OK now. But there were problems with JCommments for Joomla 4, Phoca Gallery and Kunena menu. Also problems with certain links after migration. A couple of articles had to be fixed as they gave 404 errors. I have also installed Fabrik for Joomla 4 in betaversion and it works OK.

Here are the steps to migrate from J3.10 - K5.2 to J4.2 - K6.0 docs.kunena.org/en/basics/upgrade/upgrade-k6-0

I just made a strange discovery in CPanel. After the migration the number of unique visitors have increased with 50 %. Before that they have been stable for many months.

rich wrote:

Here are the steps to migrate from J3.10 - K5.2 to J4.2 - K6.0 docs.kunena.org/en/basics/upgrade/upgrade-k6-0

Thanks