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Kunena 5.1.3 Released (19 Aug 2018)
The Kunena team has announce the arrival of Kunena 5.1.3 [K 5.1.3] which is now available for download as a native Joomla extension for J! 3.8.x. This version addresses most of the issues that were discovered in K 5.1 and issues discovered during the development stages of K 5.1. This is a maintenance release.
K 2.0 support will cease on 31 August 2013 and this section of the forum will be closed and archived after that time and no further questions will be answered about this version.
Merged K 2.0 general menu issues
I cannot figure out how to control the menus for Kenuna 2.0. A menu (with similar formating to the one up above with Index, Recent Topics, No Replies, etc.) appears on my main forum page at privatetest.silver-pen.org/index.php/forum
However, those tabs link to my "real" site at test.silver-pen.org/index.php/forum , not my sandbox site (my sandbox site was created from my real site using Akeeba backup/kickstart).
I see no place to create or modify this menu. I've checked the menus and menu modules, as well as the configuration for Kenuna. How and where is it controlled from? Do I need to go into the database and fix something?
Here's my configuration report for my sandbox site:
Database collation check: The collation of your table fields are correct
Legacy mode: Disabled | Joomla! SEF: Enabled | Joomla! SEF rewrite: Disabled | FTP layer: Disabled |
This message contains confidential informationhtaccess: Missing | PHP environment: Max execution time: 30 seconds | Max execution memory: 64M | Max file upload: 10M
Kunena menu details:Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ] [ Click to hide ]
ID Name Alias Menutype Link Path 215 GroupJive cb-groupjive mainmenu index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=pluginclass&plugin=cbgroupjive forum/cb-groupjive
Joomla default template details : spwa | author: Sue Babcock | version: 1.0.0 | creationdate: 31 Mar 2012
Kunena default template details : Silver Pen Forum | author: Sue Babcock | version: 0.0.2 | creationdate: 2012-01-31
Kunena version detailled: Kunena 2.0.0 | 2012-06-27 [ Diplomatia ]
| Kunena detailled configuration:| Joomla! detailled language files installed:Warning: Spoiler! [ Click to expand ] [ Click to hide ]
Joomla! languages installed: en-GB English (United Kingdom)
Third-party components: CommunityBuilder 1.8.1 | UddeIM 2.8
Third-party SEF components: None
Plugins: Content - Kunena Discuss 2.0.0
Modules: Kunena Latest 2.0.0 | Kunena Stats 2.0.0 | Kunena Search 2.0.0
The one difference between K 2.0 and K 1.7 is how to rebuild the default Kunena menu.
I began the task of writing how the menu works. I estimate that it will take me about 16 hours uninterrupted to complete the task. At the rate that I am proceeding - because I am also trying to help as many people as possible on the forum - I expect to obtain 2 clear days to write the documentation some time before Christmas unless someone would like to work directly with me and we could probably write the documentation together in next-to-no time.
I'm very tempted to volunteer to help you, but I am so new to forums and Kenuna, and am pretty much past my eyeballs, too, I'm worried I'd actually slow you down.
I needed to restore my menu tabs, but before I did so I decided to install Kunena 2.0, in case that self-corrected the menu problem on its own. ( It did not, and I admit in retrospect that was stupidly optimistic.) So I went through the procedure in the FAQ and your post. Problem: I cannot find the "Create Menu" feature in the Kunena control panel. I went to Menu Manager in "Forum Tools". Its function appears to be checking for conflict that would inhibit the creation of Kunena menus, but does not generate the menus as 1.7 did?
If the team that released 2.0 knew that sites could be down until someone could get 2 days of free time, then I believe either 2.0 should not have been called stable until it actually was stable, or users should have been advised of the risks. I have more than three decades of software experience; the same professional ethics apply to volunteers that apply to paid professionals. One does not leave the user without alternatives, and tell her/him to wait until you get to the issue.
If you search this forum you will find dozens/hundreds of messages where people have launched a broadside at the Kunena development team and, after we've explained the process, they've admitted that their condemnation of Kunena was, perhaps, a little hasty. For the 2 million or thereabouts downloads of Kunena, the incidence of people having menu issues is actually quite low. But we are not here to debate; we are here to deal with the difficulty that is called the Kunena menu .
I posted this message in one of three other topics that has started since the release of K 2.0:
Since I posted that topic I have not received a single request to provide a personalised service to fix someone's insuperable menu problem. This either indicates to me that people have somehow discovered the answers for themselves - which only goes to show that the difficulty level to solve was not really all that hard - or people are prepared to wait for someone else to fix the problem in an unspecified future point.
sozzled wrote: The Joomla menu system is complicated and difficult. The Joomla menu system in J! 1.5 is different to the menu system in J! 1.6 and it's a little bit different again in J! 2.5. K 2.0.0 is software that was designed to be installed as easily as possible and to work on two different versions of Joomla (i.e. J 1.5 and J! 2.5) and that's what has made things difficult.
The Kunena developers have a choice:
(1) Produce an installation kit for Kunena and write a 5-page instruction manual to show people how, for each different version of Joomla, they need to build a menu so that everything would work 100% of the time; or
(2) Develop a process that installs Kunena, sets up the basic Kunena Menu that should work in 90% of the time.
The Kunena developers decided on the second choice.
We understand that, for many people, the Joomla menu system is almost impossibly difficult to understand. Some people may never totally understand how to use it properly. Within the limits of a self-help forum like this one we will do our best to explain what you need to do. But, in answer to the comment made by DTP2 ("Please, devs, have another look at this and improve if possible.") we're trying our hearts out!
For those people who require urgent, immediate, personalised help, I can probably fix most people's sites for them in about 15 minutes. I do not provide personalised, one-on-one service like this for free. If you read the information in the forum and use the techniques that we suggest, it may take you an hour or more but most people can solve their problems themselves and it will cost them nothing more than their own time. For those who cannot afford an hour or two then there are other alternatives but, instead of spending an hour fixing their problems, they will need to spend money to obtain such help. As I have always written:So, before I am deluged with thousands of emails asking me to spend 15 minutes of my time solving their problems, people need to understand that such personal services are not free and payment is required before starting the job.
Nothing is impossible. Everything has a price.
The alternatives are
(1) Read Customised Menus
(2) Buy one of several good books and learn about the Joomla menu system;
(3) Build a test site with standard Joomla, Kunena, nothing else and see how the menu is actually set up and apply those things to your production site;
(4) Pay someone to fix the problem for you;
(5) Study the forum, search the forum to discover what other people have learned and apply their understanding to your circumstances.
In K 2.0 there is no "create menu" feature in the control panel. This fact was discussed in Kunena Tab Menu Missing
K 2.0 is totally different to K 1.7. Questions about problems with K 1.7 belong in the K 1.7 section; questions about problems with K 2.0 belong in the K 2.0 section. Please try to remember that in future.
My thought is to go back to a situation where I know that Kunena will produce the "traditional" K tabbed menu, but I am reluctant to try it given that I think it was said that one could not retrofit to 1.7.2.
I am not opposed to creating my own K menu structure in the main menu. Intuitively. however, I expect there to be a unique item menu type for each of the normal tabs. This is not the case. For instance, if I need to set up a rules page, there is no "Rules" menu type, unless one used the "custom content" menu type.
If someone could answer a couple of these questions I think I might be able to resolve my issues. If someone could assist me , it would be great. Also, I have a long history in writing procedures, technical, and user's manuals for the government. If I can contribute those skills and help release the logjam, I would be willing to do so.
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