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Kunena 5.2.4 and Blue eagle 1.6.4 released (04 Apr 2021)

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9 years 11 months ago - 9 years 11 months ago #171 by sozzled
G'day, kr200, and welcome to Kunena.

The problem with spam has less to do with the Kunena forum software than it does with how you administer your website. Yes, there are ways that you can minimise the amount of spam that you might get on your forum but it depends on the lengths to which you are prepared to go to control it. Although there are features built into Kunena to help you control the amount of spam, how does one adequately answer the question "How do I protect my forum from spam?" One might as well ask the question "How long is a piece of string?" One could also ask the question "How do I stop people asking the same question over and over again?" There are no simple answers to these kinds of never-ending questions.

As I have just written, the problem with spam actually has very little to do with Kunena. It is for this reason that this discussion is "off-topic" to the main purpose of www.kunena.org which is about helping people install Kunena, maintain Kunena and to answer questions that specifically relate to Kunena. The problem with spam is that no forum software is totally immune. Some products make it easier than others to allow spam to get on people's websites and some products are a little better in this regard. I will leave it to others to comment on whether Kunena is better, worse, or on a par with other products.

Just because the problem is "off-topic" to Kunena does not mean that we should not discuss the issue in a calm, objective and reasonable way and I hope that we can continue to do that to help one another.

Certainly there are ways that we can improve Kunena to make it more difficult to let spam get onto your forum; however, for every technical improvement that is made to Kunena there will be someone who will get around the restrictions and then we're back where we started. As I have written on numerous occasions

The only effective remedy against spam is vigilance.

As a general guide to some of the things that you can do, I suggest you read my post (msg #186 in this topic) which might help you to understand the problem that we are all dealing with.

Some site genres are more likely to attract spam than others. Some sites are an open invitation to spam. Even if you put a signpost on the front page of your site that warns "If you spam you'll be banned", spammers don't give a damn. They'll do what they want to do regardless of whatever policy your site has. It's up to you to deal with it when it happens. Kunena has a number of good moderation tools that help people deal with the spam menace. This topic mentions those tools, if you have the patience to read what others have written.

In conclusion, there is no "silver bullet", guaranteed solution to the spam problem and that's just something people need to accept as a fact. I hope that what I have written will give you something to think about. The solution is in your capable hands. :)
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9 years 11 months ago #172 by timbreese
I have been getting spam registrations on my site even though I had the Kunena forum for registered only. I think it is the Kunena registration because all of the other ones have Captcha.

Is there a Captcha plug-in for Kunena? How do I keep out the spambots?

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9 years 11 months ago - 9 years 11 months ago #173 by sozzled
Kunena does not have a registration function; Kunena is not responsible for user registration. Please look at this topic which will help you.
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9 years 10 months ago - 9 years 10 months ago #174 by lowtech
Hello!

I am not particularly concerned about spam postings to Kunena since registration is required, but I want to drive off the spammers that mess up site visitor stats.

I just installed a Project Honeypot URL in my root directory. I have sprinkled hidden links all over my site, directing spammers to the Honeypot URL.

Kunena (1.6.4) is the major target for spammers and I would like to catch them when they try to look at it. I put commented out links in category descriptions but they nevertheless appeared to the public.

Where can one put a commented out link? Do I have to add it to a .php file and if so, which one? Can I go into the MySql DB and edit a file there? Ideally I would like to put a link on the entry page, which is where the spammers start.

Any suggestions much appreciated. :cheer:

Lowtech
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9 years 10 months ago #175 by sozzled
G'day, lowtech, and welcome to Kunena.

Kunena (1.6.4) is the major target for spammers ...

I recommend that you read How do I protect my forum from spam? Although this does not give any prescriptive technical remedy, it does put the question in perspective and, from this perpective, I don't think it's reasonable to conclude that K 1.6.4 (or any specific version of Kunena) is more or less the major target for spammers.

... I put commented out links in category descriptions but they nevertheless appeared to the public.

Would you like to give a few more details about how you "commented out" links in category descriptions and how you see this technique as a means to deal with the spam issues that you appear to be having?

I am not particularly concerned about spam postings to Kunena since registration is required ...

Irrespective of how you've defined your user registration procedures, the fact remains that accounts will be registered and they will be used by spam merchants to plaster your site with their nonsense. This fact is confirmed by the occasional attempts made by people (or automated technology) to attack this website, too.

It's difficult for me to respond to your specific question ("Where can one put a commented out link") without understanding what link you are referring to. Maybe a picture of your problem will help.

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9 years 10 months ago #176 by lowtech
Thanks for the quick response!!! :)

1. The reason I mentioned the 1.6.4 version of Kunena was to let people know I am up to date. My concern with Kunena is due to the fact that on my website the spammers attack Kunena the most (and registration). Before Kunena it was Agora. And once upon a time, JoomlaComments :)

2. The way Project Honeypot works is I put a file in my root directory supplied by Honeypot. That file, a php file, redirects all site visitors to the Project's site and checks against spammer lists and if the IP is not from a spammer, the connection to my site is made. It is instantaneous. It is pretty slick. The redirect file looks like this (There are many possible variations.):
<!-- <a href="www.mysite.com/homegrown.php">dysfunctional-boxy -->
I have it working in about ten locations on my home page, but not in Kunena (yet).
"homegrown.php" is the file that transmits the IPs to Project Honeypot for checking.
Wherever I have put that file in Kunena, though commented out, it shows to the public viewer. That includes category descriptions and any posted messages.

3. At present I am not concerned with actual spam registrations. Kunena is integrated with Community Builder and registration requires answering a brief questionnaire and my personal approval after checking with StopForumspam.com. In fact, when there is any doubt,I email my concerns to a prospective member and ask for further information.

So the issue is how to plug the Kunena portal by diverting the spammers/hackers to Project Honeypot. Is there a good place to stick that redirect URL where the spam program will see it and legitimate live viewers won't see it? The spammers usually start here: /component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,94/view,entrypage/

Hope I am clearer now :)

Best,

Lowtech

G'day, lowtech, and welcome to Kunena.

Kunena (1.6.4) is the major target for spammers ...

I recommend that you read How do I protect my forum from spam? Although this does not give any prescriptive technical remedy, it does put the question in perspective and, from this perpective, I don't think it's reasonable to conclude that K 1.6.4 (or any specific version of Kunena) is more or less the major target for spammers.

... I put commented out links in category descriptions but they nevertheless appeared to the public.

Would you like to give a few more details about how you "commented out" links in category descriptions and how you see this technique as a means to deal with the spam issues that you appear to be having?

I am not particularly concerned about spam postings to Kunena since registration is required ...

Irrespective of how you've defined your user registration procedures, the fact remains that accounts will be registered and they will be used by spam merchants to plaster your site with their nonsense. This fact is confirmed by the occasional attempts made by people (or automated technology) to attack this website, too.

It's difficult for me to respond to your specific question ("Where can one put a commented out link") without understanding what link you are referring to. Maybe a picture of your problem will help.

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9 years 10 months ago - 9 years 10 months ago #177 by sozzled

The way Project Honeypot works is I put a file in my root directory supplied by Honeypot. That file, a php file, redirects all site visitors to the Project's site and checks against spammer lists and if the IP is not from a spammer, the connection to my site is made. It is instantaneous. It is pretty slick. The redirect file looks like this (There are many possible variations.):
<!-- <a href="www.mysite.com/homegrown.php">dysfunctional-boxy -->
I have it working in about ten locations on my home page, but not in Kunena (yet).
"homegrown.php" is the file that transmits the IPs to Project Honeypot for checking.
Wherever I have put that file in Kunena, though commented out, it shows to the public viewer. That includes category descriptions and any posted messages.

Thanks for the explanation. I'm not sure what you might do to add customised HTML tags to Kunena but I would imagine you should be able to achieve most of these things by incorporating them into your Joomla site template. That's just my guess. Perhaps someone else has few ideas?
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9 years 10 months ago - 9 years 10 months ago #178 by lowtech
Hello!

I guess I have found the answer I was looking for. :)

Place the honeypot redirect URL, commented out with angle bang dash dash (<!--http Honeypot redirect-->)
in /language/en-GB/en-GB.com_kunena.ini (assuming you are using English--whatever language file you use)/

I sprinkled it around in about five places all related to login messages. It is machine readable but not visible to the eye.
The first place it appears is: "Only community members can participate in forum threads. You must register or log in to contribute."

Honeypot has already (apparently) reduced spammers by 80%. Hope this will take care of most of the rest.

Best,

Lowtech
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9 years 10 months ago - 9 years 10 months ago #179 by JIPku.com

Hey..

Im using Kunena Forums and I have all spam bots registering on the site and posting new threads and posts .
I need to stop this , but dont know, if Kunena has a solution to this. Kindly let me know. :dry:


Hi Soamz,

I have same problem with you, but after I installed "Forum Protection Light" plugin from Joomla.StefySoft.com. I can reduce spam that post into my forum.

It's easy on setting, you just access the plugin and put the bad words into bad words field.

I hope this information can be useful for kunena admin

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Connecting Indonesian JIP'ers
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9 years 10 months ago - 9 years 10 months ago #180 by sozzled
I was looking at the reviews about Kunena a couple of days ago, and I saw comment posted by a person who calls himself/herself "thefonz22" who wrote:

[Kunena] is a great extensions, have been using it for years. The only issue I have is that it's damn easy for spam bots to attack! Other than that I have no issues.

I wish that this person had asked here about what precautions could take to reduce the incidence of spam attacks before writing that review.

As I've written dozens of times in this forum (and in other forums around the internet) the problem of spam is not Kunena or any other specific forum software. phpBB forums are spammed; punBB forums are spammed; all manner of forums are apammed. Kunena is caught in the same net. Let's blame the forum software for the amount of spam that my site receives.

Kunena does not make it easy for spam attacks. The project team is continually looking at ways to improve the situation further and reduce the likelihood of spam attacks. However, the argument does not follow that because you have Kunena you will make things easier for spam attacks. It's that part of thefonz22's conclusion that I disagree with.

Thank you, thefonz22, whoever you are for your other kind words. It would also be good to join our discussion here, so that we may help you understand why your site may be on the receiving end of spam.
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